{"id":788,"date":"2022-10-25T10:02:00","date_gmt":"2022-10-25T09:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/?p=788"},"modified":"2024-11-28T13:29:31","modified_gmt":"2024-11-28T12:29:31","slug":"readers-query-combating-poisson-chats","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/readers-query-combating-poisson-chats\/","title":{"rendered":"How to Avoid &#038; Combat Poisson Chat"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>We&#8217;re resurrecting a few of our old question &amp; answer posts as they&#8217;re still very applicable today! Here&#8217;s a great one on how to avoid &amp; combat poisson chat.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Poisson chat are very common in many French lakes, but with a few tips and tricks you can minimise any disturbance they have on your carp fishing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Without using preventative measures to combat poisson chat, these small nuisance fish can:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>slowly nibble down the bait off your hook<\/li><li>give you a false run<\/li><li>hoover up your baited spots<\/li><li>leave your rigs tangled<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.anglinglines.com\/wp-content\/images\/2022\/10\/Ameiurus-melas-3-1024x684.jpeg\" alt=\"How to Avoid &amp; Combat Poisson Chat\" class=\"wp-image-28409\" width=\"700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2022\/10\/Ameiurus-melas-3-1024x684.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2022\/10\/Ameiurus-melas-3-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2022\/10\/Ameiurus-melas-3-150x100.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2022\/10\/Ameiurus-melas-3-768x513.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2022\/10\/Ameiurus-melas-3-1536x1025.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2022\/10\/Ameiurus-melas-3.jpeg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>A photo of a poisson chat, courtesy of Fishipedia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><em>Simon Boi wrote:<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">I&#8217;m visiting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/venue\/old-oaks\" class=\"kblinker\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More about Old Oaks &raquo;\">Old Oaks<\/a> lake in June this year and was reading about the poisson chat and how to counteract them.&nbsp; There are some good videos about netting boilies or using a plastic wrap to stop the being slowly eaten away. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">I was wondering if the current wave of plastic baits might prove a fruitful way of fishing for the carp without attracting the nuisance species?&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">I have noticed the pineapple crush boilies seem to be a good bait for some reason. But what about things like fake corn or would it be too small?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">Also I quite like the idea of zig rigs for Old Oaks and was wondering if the crayfish and poisson chat were only bottom dwellers? Or if a bait half way up in the water would still be fair game?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hi Simon,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thanks for your question. Many people can be phased by these nasty little fish, but if you use techniques, some of which you already mention you&#8217;ll be fine. As far as I know there are no crayfish in Old Oaks, so you can scratch them off your list.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Zig Rigs:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Unfortunately the poisson chat swim, feed and cause havoc at all depths, so a zig won&#8217;t stop them completely. <strong>However, a zig or pop up does cause them problems as it moves in the water<\/strong>, meaning they do take longer to break the boilie down. This gives the carp more time and so can improve your chances. I will also use a bait straight off the lead and caught in poisson chat infested lakes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Plastic Boilies:<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>On the subject of plastic boilies, I would say absolutely!<\/strong> They are brilliant fish catchers and a secret weapon used by Shaun Harrison and myself (since Shaun told me about it). Our preferred presentation is with a bottom bait snow man style. I suggest you glug up the plastic baits as they take on and hold a flavour very well. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Presented as I suggest, if your boilie is eaten during the night for example, you still have a plastic bait with some flavour to get a run. Over the last few carp fishing seasons I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve cast a line without a plastic boilie in place. I know Shaun also uses them to great effect all over France and the UK.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You mention plastic corn, yes this is an alternative, personally I find the plastic boilies more effective, but there is no reason why you won&#8217;t catch on the corn. I have had lots of fish over beds of maize and sweetcorn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.anglinglines.com\/wp-content\/images\/2014\/01\/sticky10.jpg\" alt=\"carp fishing with plastic baits\" class=\"wp-image-18578\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2014\/01\/sticky10.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2014\/01\/sticky10-300x180.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2014\/01\/sticky10-150x90.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2014\/01\/sticky10-220x132.jpg 220w, https:\/\/www.anglinglines.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2014\/01\/sticky10-104x62.jpg 104w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption>Carp fishing with plastic baits<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Bait Flavours:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally on the subject of the Pineapple Crush. They certainly do deter the poisson chats. Not 100%, but the baits don&#8217;t seem to be nibbled by the very small ones, so you baits stay intact for the carp to find.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However the bigger poisson chat, half a pound or so, have very big mouths for their size and can easily swallow two 20mm baits. The last time I fished Old Oaks these larger poissons were the only problem we had. That said the two of us fishing 6 rods probably only had one or two a day, so it wasn&#8217;t exactly mad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once the carp move in you&#8217;ll get no more problems from the chats so they certainly don&#8217;t stop you catching. <strong>Avoid fishy baits, pellets and oils and you&#8217;ll have less problems <\/strong>&#8211; poisson chat really like anything fishy! Bait with seed mixes, hemp and boilies in moderate quantities and you&#8217;ll be fine. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Rigs:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>One last thing, <strong>I suggest you use a stiff rig or combi-braid. <\/strong>The poissons moving your bait around can tangle your end rig if it is too supple.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Regards<br>Gareth<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Want more tips on how to avoid &amp; combat poisson chat when French carp fishing? Find more articles &amp; videos <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.anglinglines.com\/category\/technical-carping\/combating-poisson-chat-cray-fish\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"here\">here<\/a><\/h2>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We&#8217;re resurrecting a few of our old question &amp; answer posts as they&#8217;re still very applicable today! Here&#8217;s a great one on how to avoid &amp; combat poisson chat. 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